Protests against OpenAI get increasingly creative
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Why not LLMs? [Codeberg]
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Coding is NOT solved
cross-posted from: feddit.org/post/36071801
This author trieds hard to do a pragmatic view. He does not mention ethical or ecological concerns (which should matter far more and subject to legal regulation IMO).
Instead, he focuses on the quality topic. His thinking is that companies are doing now a kind of quality arbitrage: Companies can make low-quality code at far cheaper costs, and sellthe result still at human-made prices. Which will only work for so long, he thinks: Customers will demand lower prices. (Easy to imagine a quality downward spiral.)
Which invokes the question: What has happened that people accept lower and lower quality? Is new software nowadays still really useful?
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Go for fully Linux compatible hardware.
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What is the best example how much money is 6 trillion dollars of profit per year?
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This plaza in downtown Guadalajara, Mexico, used to be a noisy, polluted car sewer. Now it's a place for people, bikes, and life, with underground rapid transit [Before pic in description]
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/52872413
How it used to look:
A better world exists if you want it.
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So, their fix for spying is gaslighting?
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The Making of an AI Data Centre Warrior | The Tyee
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Ah, the good old “let’s highjack a popular thing to promote AI” PR method!
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Given empirical numbers of bugs per lines of code … and the size of Microsoft products, how many bugs do they probably have?
Given how “productive” LLMs are at adding lined of code, how many new bugs are there likely added per month?
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At that rate, I am pessimistic that we’ll see actual witch hunts and belief in existence of Satan soon.
The foundations of modern society seem to be a lot less stable than I used to think.
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Global fossil-fuel emissions are set to fall by in 2026
Time for a Nobel prize, I guess.
Who should get it?
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Ridiculous anti-AI hysteria is pushed by the AI companies themselves to make the anti-AI side look insane.
And to weaken the FOSS communities I guess. Plain information warfare.
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Keep in mind that this only relates to the state of the largest LLMs. You can train generative models on consumer graphics cards. Object recognition, classification, etc are all tiny compared to LLMs. These are also AI […]
The linked Codeberg page refers to LLMs in their current, corporate-controlled shapIe. It is about using LLMs for coding.
Your argument is rather leading away from that.
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I don’t want to be funny, but that’s not mutually exclusive.
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How would Solus compare to Void Linux?
One of the most interesting characteristics Void Linux has is “stable rolling release”. The only large distribution which does this is IIRC SuSE Tumbleweed/ Slowroll.
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What desktop environments and window managers does Void Linux support?
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Big Tech and Big Oil have fused – Call it Fossil Tech
cross-posted from: piefed.social/…/big-tech-and-big-oil-have-fused-c…
(Big Tech data-centers are increasing fossil fuel use and GHGs, while the executives are making prophecies that “AI will fix it”)
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Sometimes, I think the “AI” industry has an interest to keep the debate as polarized as possible. Because this keeps people from taking a sober look and examine rationally and objectively what they promise, vs. what they deliver.
We have several public debates which followed a similar pattern, such as the debates around climate protection and clean energy. (And lo and behold! Now “AI” is the reason we can’t have climate protection!)
Or the “AI arms race” argument, which honestly just reminds me in the enthusiasm, propaganda, and delusion that happened at the outbreak of WWI. Yes, modern weapons got “better”. But that made war just more lunatic. And now, you can kill a building full of school children with an “AI mistake”. Military people must be gleeful.
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I think this is happening a lot.
Say somebody wants clean drinking water in their home town. Or they want to stop Climate change which is going to destroy important parts of the biosphere.
Then they opposea chemical plant which pollutes the water. Or oppose technology and policies which cause more carbon emissions, instead of bringing them to zero, as is really needed.
Now, the industry creates culture war with highly polarized, extreme position. And when you continue to oppose that, you are suddenly the causing part of the culture war, and responsible that there is conflict. “If you were reasonable, you would agree to something in the middle”.
Works also with far-right policies. “Ah, you oppose killing immigrants! So, you could agree to deport everyone whose parents were not born here!”.
It is the whole point of the real extremism to shift the mainstream view. If having an ai girlfriend and talking about the end of humanity is lunatic, it must be the reasonable and measured position to do a lot of office work with ai, right? And the idea that in reality, it might not help at all is extremism.
Of course, there are a lot of problems which require to find a kind of compromise. But not every problem is like that, and in order to find real compromises you need to look at the legitimate interests of the people involved. Drinking clean water is a legitimate interest. Destroying the planet for more profit not.
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Also, polarization is another danger, it can seriously hurt communities. I saw that with some dance communities during COVID. We need to navigate between Scylla and Charybdis here.
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I am in South of Italy now in a beautiful city build in 17th century from white marble and limestone. And in every street in the old center, there are several flats for sale.
I can’ tell what’s up, but it is like people are leaving their city.
I think it was the hottest and most brutal summer Southern Europe has ever seen.
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Carl Sagan testifying before Congress on Climate Change - in 1985
Carl Sagan testifying before Congress in 1985 on climate change
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Ubuntu or Mint is quite okay, I have used both of them in the past and set it up for a friend with little money, little time, and very little PC expertise. Worked perfectly for them for over 10 years without a problem.
Today, if you can get a little help with setting up, I’d recommend Debian stable with either GNOME or KDE. It is more stable and has longer and better long term security support, which did become more important.
Also, it is now easy to set up with disk encryption, which matters for keeping private data secure on Laptops which can get lost or stolen.
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Installing new packages is relatively slow. But it was also quite slow because the infrastructure at gnu.org was loaded. It is a lot faster since the project moved to codeberg.
Also, for me personally is openix a “guix shell” a lot faster than starting up a virtual machine.
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Here a comment on this from usernomdeguerre on hacker news.
“His” and “GKH” refers to Greg Kroah-Hartmann, who is maintainer of the stable kernel series and the speaker in the video.
I’ve included a few slides into text that i thought were eye-opening to me:
From his Kernel Recipes 2026 slide on Mythos
Mythos's 79 vulnerabilities:
24 - no detail at all "something crashed"
14 - not a bug at all
3 - totally made up data
15 - already fixed in latest release
- 11 by others
- 4 by anthropic
20 - fixes were needed
- 7 "assume a malicious filesystem image"
- 2 "assume you can inject a malicious network packet into the middle of the stack"
- 2 "NOMMU"
- 6 sctp networking issues for untrusted devices
- 2 ipv6 minor network issues
- 1 gpu driver for local malicious user
GHK called this “10 ‘real’ bugfixes”, which to me sounds like there’s a wild hype machine around these companies and uncritical parroting of every press release they make that falls apart when you engage the affected real experts.
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i need proof of the already proben impact of AI and AI datacenters over territories in the country i live in?
No, proof about the maintainers intentions. Because you make a statement over them.
I am extremely worried about the implications of “AI” as well, but you do not win this discussion by name-calling.
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Fuck NVidia. I saved so much time since I bought an AMD Radeon card.
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There is a brilliant book which helped me a lot to get started with LaTeX,
Leslie Lamport, LaTeX: A Document preparation system.
It is itself a masterpiece of good technical writing. My copy is now 30 years old, and I still use it.
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Some day, we will have an international trial on murder of the biosphere and hundreds of millions of people, by deliberately destroying Earths life-friendly climate zones. Future generations will not mince words.
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GUI - on SailfishOS phone
TUI - on PDA / Linux handheld with physical keyboard
Manual tiling WM on Laptop and PC - current order of preference StumpWM, GNOME PaperWM, i3 / sway.
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They mean no one can be reasonably be up to date on software security updates, and (ideally) ensuring all packages changes are not malicious (as well as the small stuff like properly integrating to the distro, but idk how void works enough to comment on that)
Some people do an astounding amount of work.
And then there are many, many, which help a little.
Also, if, say, somebody finds that in Debian testing is a malicious package, people which maintain Arch will learn that. Open information sharing between many thousands of people willing to coordinate is a superpower.
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To say that, you would need proof that this was in bad faith, woudln’t you?
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That would lead to an AI ice age. Surely not the worst development for Gaia and her children.
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AI or not, I refuse to believe anyone is capable of being the sole maintainer of 100+ anything while preserving any kind of quality. Most of these packages were probably functionally abandoned already, if not technically.
He/She was maintainer of the Void Linux packages, that is the package build scripts, updates, etc., not the projects and source code which these packages are based on.
For example, Guix has now over 32000 packages, including an Emacs package. But of course, they did not re-create Emacs to make that package - they just made a build definition which uses the Emacs git repo, in order to build the Guix package. Or in the case of Ubuntu, it is based on the package definitions in Debian testing, so the Ubuntu maintainers do not have to write all the build scripts or package definitions - but they still have to do significant work in order to adapt them that everything fits together.
Or with Arch Linux, the packages are taken relatively vanilla from upstream, they package stuff more “as is” as compared to Debian. Which means less work, and often more clarity for experienced users.
Coming back to Void Linux, this means for these 100+ Void Linux packages which are currently orphaned, it is feasible that other people with good Linux experience adopt these, with a reasonable effort - some are important.
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This is what I do. I use guix shell for local development environments, for example when I need current Rust + cargo or an LSP package in Emacs.
It is also quite good for packaging and distributing own software that way.
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Andrew Kelley also made a YouTube version, for people which prefer video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLZwpH5lCD4
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Look at distrowatch.org.
Myself, I am using plain old Debian stable since about 17 years, after using SuSE and a bit of Ubuntu since 1998 or so.
I also use a bit of Arch and Guix when it comes handy.
So, I am a boring guy.
But back to your question: What du you want? What is your goal?
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But to be honest, TempleOS is way cooler.
While plan9 is Unix tidied up a bit.
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turns out it’s also developed by a terrible person.
GNOME is developed by many people.
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Is there a better archive link?
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Do we need in a police state to keep people from stealing?
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You could look at Clojure, Scheme, and Common Lisp.
I do not know whether they fit your cognitive preferences, but they stress logic.
Resources online are The Lisp Cookbook, Clojure for the Brave And True, and the Racket Tutorials. Some Lisp programmers are excellent writers and teachers!
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From the discussion on the programmer forum lobste.rs:
I just started a NixOS project and briefly considered Guix instead. I went with Nix entirely because it’s more popular, which means there’s more AI training material for it. I don’t intend to ever program in Nix myself so while I’d prefer Scheme conceptually, it’s not a big thing for me. OTOH everyone loves the Guix docs, that’s a point in its favor for AI usability.
Joey Hess seems to have been right with his recent comment that LLMs promote using things like configuration languages that are worse for understanding.
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