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David Revoy
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org ·Aug 04
@MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk 🎶
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Christian Bratsch
@BratschCbra@sueden.social ·Aug 05
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk
nice adaption
greetings from salzburg ;)
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zedaardv
@zedaardv@mastodon.world ·Aug 05
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Ah, just like I remember it.
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draeath
@draeath@infosec.exchange ·Aug 04
@MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk ML is fine, it's LLMs that are so problematic!
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Tobias Schächtelin
@tschach@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
@MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk Prompting in the Name
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Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
@TimWardCam@c.im ·Aug 04
@MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk You use machine learning most times you spend money (your transaction will probably go through at least one fraud detection system that uses ML to recognise scams).
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M Nesce Drake
@nesce@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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@TimWardCam@c.im @MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk .... and is used in science, in radiology, but the name is too close to "chat bot" and the masses cannot understand the difference so we must destroy it. 🫠
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jer
@jerrej@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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Also, the perpetrators of LLMs just love the confusion between AI, ML, and GenAI/LLM, and so on. It serves their commercial prospects.
Then again, I met a guy last week who confused AI with QR; he'd been at a bar with his fifteen mates on a stag do and got confused by the QR code on the terrace table used for ordering, and he called that "AI", explaining to me (later) that he couldn't work out how to use it (the QR code) to put in an order.
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Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷
@KimSJ@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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The best way to use a QR code for ordering is to ignore it and go to a restaurant with old-fashioned human service.
#GrumpyOldMan
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jer
@jerrej@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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How quickly we get entirely side-tracked from the original Important Message. I blame the acronyms.
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Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷
@KimSJ@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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I suggest it’s not a sidetrack; the message we should be extrapolating from the OP is that there are appropriate uses of technology, and there are inappropriate ones. And adding pressure to restaurant staff to save some of the wage bill, thereby enshittifying the dining experience, is certainly one example of inappropriate technology.
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Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
@TimWardCam@c.im ·Aug 04
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@jerrej@mastodon.social @nesce@mastodon.social @MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk I mostly don't bother to attempt to use the QR codes for ordering. Apart from the general lunacy one would have to suffer from to scan *any* QR code in a public place, I've never yet found a system that lets you order things you actually want, like for example "the burger but with no cheese" or "the biryani but with a peshwari nan instead of a plain one". So you have to end up ordering from a human anyway, so why waste time pissing around with a useless "app" first?
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jer
@jerrej@mastodon.social ·Aug 04
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The app would be the absolute worst case scenario. How about just a website, eh? But then maybe the website (or app) has an "I need assistance" button which would prove more useful? How would you find out, ignoring the QR code? Maybe just call their landline and someone behind the bar will pick up the phone. Then you explain where you are and that you would like to speak to an actual person at your table. :-)
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🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5% 
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🏴🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳 @duckwhistle@mastodon.org.uk ·Aug 04
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or they just ignored the difference for the sake of the pun, assuming most people who would get the reference, would also be aware there is nuance to the subject, even if they don't know all the details.